From: Gordon White <gwhite@episun1.harvard.edu>
To: ml@qoole.com
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19971202091023.0084de90@ecis.com>
Reply-To: ml@qoole.com
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 12:30:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: AGP and GLqoole/quake

OK, I think this thred is getting out of hand, can we narrow it down to 
a few questions that everyone (me included) is trying to get at:

1)Will a 3dfx(monster etc) card work with a 2d AGP card?

2)Will a 3d AGP card with the riva chipset (i.e. diamond viper) play glquake?
(the gldojo says NO AGP support for glquake on the riva chipset)
 
3)Is using a pci video card with a 3dfx card on a LX chipset motherboard a 
better alternative to AGP for glquake?


getting back to qoole.  Why do I get errors when QBSPing in glqoole 
(items outside) but the same level QBSPs fine in Winqoole, and plays fine 
in glquake?

Gordon



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Gordon White (617) 432-4573 

On Tue, 2 Dec 1997, Superfro wrote:

> oh ya, and i have a monster..  dont get rid of your card.. i think its the best in the market.. as long as it is a revision B
> 
> 
> At 12:48 AM 12/2/97 +0100, you wrote:
> 
> >Ehh... I have a Monster 3D card and I am soon upgrading too Pentium II
> 
> >300MHz, does this mean I have to sell my Monster 3D card??? Or can I use it
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> >and forget about the AGP thing?
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> >
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> >
> 
> >>> the riva gets 39.9 fps on a P2-300 on an LX board. the viper agp gets 
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> >>> 40.9 fps (which is the fastest on the charts of 640x480x16.  
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> >>> the funny thing is, my p-100  (overclocked to 133) gets 45 fps average 
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> >>> under the same conditions..  check the charts..  
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> >>> 
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> >>> 
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> >>>>>> The nVidia RIVA chipset scales with the processor a lot more than the
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> >3Dfx
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> >>>>>> chipset does.  On a Pentium II 300, the RIVA slightly beats out a
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> >3Dfx in
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> >>>>>> GLQuake, and does better in Direct 3D.
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> >>> 
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> >>> >> 
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> >>> 
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> >>> >> I am about to buy a new PII and have a choice AGP cards.  The sales man 
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> >>> 
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> >>> >> just told me the Number 9 revolution (4mb) uses the RIVA chipset.  Will 
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> >>> 
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> >>> >> this AGP card play glquake and therefor GLQOOLE? He also told me my 
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> >>> 
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> >>> >> monster 3d add on card would not work with an AGP card.  
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> >>> 
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> >>> >> I checked out the gldojo and found almost nothing about AGP cards. 
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> >>> 
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> >>> >> (its a little early I know). If anyone knows please fill me in.
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> >>> >
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> >>> >Well, it definitely won't work for GLQoole; GLQoole works ONLY with 3dfx
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> >>> 
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> >>> >cards.  But the RIVA *may* work with GLQuake; check the dojo for info.
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> >>> 
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> <flushright>                                                     
> Superfro..
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