From: Andy Gramata <agramata@infonline.net>
To: ml@qoole.com
Reply-To: ml@qoole.com
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 14:37:21 -0500
Subject: Re: AGP and GLqoole/quake

To try and answer your questions.......

1. yes, you can put a 3DFX card along side a AGP video card.

2. A 3D AGP card (diamond viper, matrox millenium AGP) will run GLQuake
    but it may not be acceptable enough to play. (low fps)

3. Yes.....until your OS (Win98, NT 5.0) supports AGP you're better off
just
     not worrying about AGP. Just buy a 3DFX card and Quake away
(whether
     you have an AGP card or PCI)....when the
     next generation of VooDoo cards comes out..then look into AGP.
(IMHO)

I hope this clears things up a bit.............or it will just dump gas
on the fire.....

Andy G.






Gordon White wrote:

> OK, I think this thred is getting out of hand, can we narrow it down
> to
> a few questions that everyone (me included) is trying to get at:
>
> 1)Will a 3dfx(monster etc) card work with a 2d AGP card?
>
> 2)Will a 3d AGP card with the riva chipset (i.e. diamond viper) play
> glquake?
> (the gldojo says NO AGP support for glquake on the riva chipset)
>
> 3)Is using a pci video card with a 3dfx card on a LX chipset
> motherboard a
> better alternative to AGP for glquake?
>
> getting back to qoole.  Why do I get errors when QBSPing in glqoole
> (items outside) but the same level QBSPs fine in Winqoole, and plays
> fine
> in glquake?
>
> Gordon
>
> ***************************
> Gordon White (617) 432-4573
>
> On Tue, 2 Dec 1997, Superfro wrote:
>
> > oh ya, and i have a monster..  dont get rid of your card.. i think
> its the best in the market.. as long as it is a revision B
> >
> >
> > At 12:48 AM 12/2/97 +0100, you wrote:
> >
> > >Ehh... I have a Monster 3D card and I am soon upgrading too Pentium
> II
> >
> > >300MHz, does this mean I have to sell my Monster 3D card??? Or can
> I use it
> >
> > >and forget about the AGP thing?
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >>> the riva gets 39.9 fps on a P2-300 on an LX board. the viper agp
> gets
> >
> > >>> 40.9 fps (which is the fastest on the charts of 640x480x16.
> >
> > >>> the funny thing is, my p-100  (overclocked to 133) gets 45 fps
> average
> >
> > >>> under the same conditions..  check the charts..
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>>>>> The nVidia RIVA chipset scales with the processor a lot more
> than the
> >
> > >3Dfx
> >
> > >>>>>> chipset does.  On a Pentium II 300, the RIVA slightly beats
> out a
> >
> > >3Dfx in
> >
> > >>>>>> GLQuake, and does better in Direct 3D.
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> >> I am about to buy a new PII and have a choice AGP cards.  The
> sales man
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> >> just told me the Number 9 revolution (4mb) uses the RIVA
> chipset.  Will
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> >> this AGP card play glquake and therefor GLQOOLE? He also told
> me my
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> >> monster 3d add on card would not work with an AGP card.
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> >> I checked out the gldojo and found almost nothing about AGP
> cards.
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> >> (its a little early I know). If anyone knows please fill me
> in.
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> >
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> >Well, it definitely won't work for GLQoole; GLQoole works ONLY
> with 3dfx
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> >cards.  But the RIVA *may* work with GLQuake; check the dojo
> for info.
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > <flushright>
> > Superfro..
> >
> > </flushright>                                                 ICQ#
> 1469056
> >