From: Gordon White <gwhite@episun1.harvard.edu>
To: ml@qoole.com
In-Reply-To: <34846371.B76FBB75@infonline.net>
Reply-To: ml@qoole.com
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:02:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: AGP and GLqoole/quake

Thank you, this did clear things up.

Gordon

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Gordon White (617) 432-4573 

On Tue, 2 Dec 1997, Andy Gramata wrote:

> To try and answer your questions.......
> 
> 1. yes, you can put a 3DFX card along side a AGP video card.
> 
> 2. A 3D AGP card (diamond viper, matrox millenium AGP) will run GLQuake
>     but it may not be acceptable enough to play. (low fps)
> 
> 3. Yes.....until your OS (Win98, NT 5.0) supports AGP you're better off
> just
>      not worrying about AGP. Just buy a 3DFX card and Quake away
> (whether
>      you have an AGP card or PCI)....when the
>      next generation of VooDoo cards comes out..then look into AGP.
> (IMHO)
> 
> I hope this clears things up a bit.............or it will just dump gas
> on the fire.....
> 
> Andy G.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Gordon White wrote:
> 
> > OK, I think this thred is getting out of hand, can we narrow it down
> > to
> > a few questions that everyone (me included) is trying to get at:
> >
> > 1)Will a 3dfx(monster etc) card work with a 2d AGP card?
> >
> > 2)Will a 3d AGP card with the riva chipset (i.e. diamond viper) play
> > glquake?
> > (the gldojo says NO AGP support for glquake on the riva chipset)
> >
> > 3)Is using a pci video card with a 3dfx card on a LX chipset
> > motherboard a
> > better alternative to AGP for glquake?
> >
> > getting back to qoole.  Why do I get errors when QBSPing in glqoole
> > (items outside) but the same level QBSPs fine in Winqoole, and plays
> > fine
> > in glquake?
> >
> > Gordon
> >
> > ***************************
> > Gordon White (617) 432-4573
> >
> > On Tue, 2 Dec 1997, Superfro wrote:
> >
> > > oh ya, and i have a monster..  dont get rid of your card.. i think
> > its the best in the market.. as long as it is a revision B
> > >
> > >
> > > At 12:48 AM 12/2/97 +0100, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >Ehh... I have a Monster 3D card and I am soon upgrading too Pentium
> > II
> > >
> > > >300MHz, does this mean I have to sell my Monster 3D card??? Or can
> > I use it
> > >
> > > >and forget about the AGP thing?
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >>> the riva gets 39.9 fps on a P2-300 on an LX board. the viper agp
> > gets
> > >
> > > >>> 40.9 fps (which is the fastest on the charts of 640x480x16.
> > >
> > > >>> the funny thing is, my p-100  (overclocked to 133) gets 45 fps
> > average
> > >
> > > >>> under the same conditions..  check the charts..
> > >
> > > >>>
> > >
> > > >>>
> > >
> > > >>>>>> The nVidia RIVA chipset scales with the processor a lot more
> > than the
> > >
> > > >3Dfx
> > >
> > > >>>>>> chipset does.  On a Pentium II 300, the RIVA slightly beats
> > out a
> > >
> > > >3Dfx in
> > >
> > > >>>>>> GLQuake, and does better in Direct 3D.
> > >
> > > >>>
> > >
> > > >>> >>
> > >
> > > >>>
> > >
> > > >>> >> I am about to buy a new PII and have a choice AGP cards.  The
> > sales man
> > >
> > > >>>
> > >
> > > >>> >> just told me the Number 9 revolution (4mb) uses the RIVA
> > chipset.  Will
> > >
> > > >>>
> > >
> > > >>> >> this AGP card play glquake and therefor GLQOOLE? He also told
> > me my
> > >
> > > >>>
> > >
> > > >>> >> monster 3d add on card would not work with an AGP card.
> > >
> > > >>>
> > >
> > > >>> >> I checked out the gldojo and found almost nothing about AGP
> > cards.
> > >
> > > >>>
> > >
> > > >>> >> (its a little early I know). If anyone knows please fill me
> > in.
> > >
> > > >>>
> > >
> > > >>> >
> > >
> > > >>>
> > >
> > > >>> >Well, it definitely won't work for GLQoole; GLQoole works ONLY
> > with 3dfx
> > >
> > > >>>
> > >
> > > >>> >cards.  But the RIVA *may* work with GLQuake; check the dojo
> > for info.
> > >
> > > >>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > <flushright>
> > > Superfro..
> > >
> > > </flushright>                                                 ICQ#
> > 1469056
> > >
> 
> 
> 
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