From: rbw.qoole@juno.com (Brian Peterson [a.k.a. RBW])
To: ml@qoole.com
Reply-To: ml@qoole.com
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 03:44:57 -0700
Subject: Re: Qoole CD. Whats this restrictive license agreement???

Okay... I'm sure everyone has been anticipating (and probably dreading) 
Rant-boy's (i.e. me) response to this thread.  So here goes...


My fellow Qoolies,

The clause in question is not an uncommon one... and IMO certainly not 
an unfair one.  I may be wrong (I only speak conversational legalese), 
but here is how I read the clause:
    If you plan on receiving any sort of financial compensation for 
    anything you make with Qoole, you have to get a separate license 
    agreement from Lithium.  You are allowed to create and distribute 
    anything you create with Qoole so long as you don't receive any 
    form of payment for your work.
This seems reasonable to me.  I think most of the Quake-related editing 
programs have a similar clause.  This sort of clause is used to protect 
the program authors from being exploited.

In my understanding, the clause only prevents you from using Qoole for 
profit under this license agreement... not _all_ license agreements.  If 
you want to use Qoole to help you make money, just ask Lithium for a new 
license agreement _before_ you sell anything.  Matt and Paul are reason-
able people and will most likely give you a more than reasonable license 
agreement for commercial use if you need one.

Now, in light of Andrew Podesta's contribution to this thread, I would 
like to nominate him for "Grand-High Fuckhead of the Century".  Andrew, 
people like you should be banished to the /dev/null file of life.  If you

do actually start pirating Qoole, I hope someone hunts you down and beats

you into a bloody pulp...  and that's coming from a pacifist!  Excuse me 
while I go scream...
      ******** AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! ********

-R.B.W.

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On Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:04:43 -0500 "Jaimi" <jaimi@alt.net> writes:
> Just received my Qoole CD rom! Looks great, package is great. Went
>to install - Surprise! There has been a restrictive license agreement
>added to the CD!
>
>> 2.  Commercial use is prohibited.  Work created using the SOFTWARE
>> may not be used for commercial purposes, including but not limited
>> to, level compilations and other game products sold for profit,
>> without a seperate prior license agreement from LITHIUM.
>
>Imagine my surprise at this added bit. Whats up with this? I can't make
>levels, using my own textures, my own prefabs, my own entities with
>your editor for my game without another license?
>
>What would make you put this there?
>
>Imagine the disdain people would have if microsoft had put this kind of
>thing
>into word. Or if Nissan included it with their trucks. Or sears
craftsmen
>tools:
>"Commercial use of this wrench is prohibited".
>
>Please remove this ill-conceived licensing agreement from an otherwise
>fine product.
>
>Best regards,
>Jaimi McEntire
>
>