From: Martin Espinoza To: ml@qoole.com Reply-To: ml@qoole.com Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 19:16:14 +0000 Subject: Re: TO CRUCIFORM@LONDON.asshole (rather vulgar in reply to his re to "a warni This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A9D282D5EA80A98CCCA9B3B6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit StinkyMnky wrote: > > Well yea ofcourse plenty of systems run at full capacity 24/7, and as for how > I have the nerve to be cursing on a ML for being accused of being wrong, well > it's actually quite simple... Because I have a fried system sitting in my room > that proves my accusation... No, not true at all. Your fried system proves that you either A> bought crap hardware, or B> fried it yourself. Or, of course, you got something defective. NO ONE SAID that systems run at full capacity 24/7. They said that it always runs at the full SPEED, AKA CLOCK RATE, when they are turned on. This is the truth. Doing more processing won't do more; When you're not using the cycles yourself the idle process eats them up. > I wrote the first "threaded" message "A warning > to editors" for the mere reson that I wanted to give out a warning, that if > you noticed simular problems starting that you should change you're habbits, > very simple... No, you should get a bigger CPU fan. > I don't need somebody saying that what happened is impossible, > cause as plain as day, that's is what is in my room.... Within one week I did > the same exact thing to the computer that I am using, only it was the very > early stages of it... When silicon fails, it fails. It doesn't fail slowly, like a car's engine. It CAN fail to work at higher temperatures, which is the big cause of lockups you didn't expect. Lockups during high activity are generally a sign of a driver conflict or a bug in something, your OS, or again a driver. Also, a program can go wandering through memory that doesn't belong to it. > If you can recall what I said in my first message: If > you're noticing alot of unusual errors in you're OS then don't multitask while > compiling... That's bogus. If linux can do it reliably, why can't windows? Answer, software issues; But NOT HARDWARE. > Because I've talked to several people, who have said "yea my > computer has hung-up alot while compiling" and if you're pulling system files > in ocache and you computer has to pysically be restarted via the reset button > because ctrl+alt+del, nor will the num-lock key function that's just plain > what you're going to have to do, and you're gonna tell me that doesn't cause > problems.... It causes problems if you're in the middle of a disk write. > if it's so harmless why bother using the "shut down" button other > than to sign on as a different user... See above. > the cpu's are fine, the fans (6 of > them) are running fine, the ram is fine , everything was fine... As for the > bottlenecking, and running at full capacity, put a proccessor into a binary > loop and tell me if it doesn't melt before you're eyes... It doesn't. Your machine just appears to lock. I've seen THAT happen before. > I have enough > cooling in my vicinity to keep that down, but something, on the MB didn't, so > it went kapoot.... CASE CLOSED, end of this thread, end of the whole thing, if > you don't believe it, if you choose to shrug and laugh at the initial warning > fine... I'm just amused by your ignorantly cocky assertion that you're right. > I was just trying to help, up until now, I've never contributed a > thread w/out having an answer to a qoole oriented question, or a question > myself, and I've been nothing but honestly good hearted when attempting to add > something.... I do have a reason to have a hissy fit, everything I hold dear > about myself is gone, much more than just quake stuff, everything I've done in > the past 5 years is just a memory. Perhaps you should consider doing backups. > I'm not bitching I'm just saying why I had > to write that letter... Could've been I've been awake the past 5 days straight > and yes I got a little carried away, but enough of that... Always check your references. ---------------------- mespinoz@tivoli.com ------------------------- Nothing is true; Everything is permitted. --Hassan I Sabbah --------------A9D282D5EA80A98CCCA9B3B6 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Martin Espinoza Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Martin Espinoza n: Espinoza;Martin org: Tivoli Systems email;internet: mespinoz@tivoli.com title: Engineer x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: TRUE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------A9D282D5EA80A98CCCA9B3B6--