From: Charles Boardman To: ml@qoole.com In-Reply-To: <001601bd3324$25a12940$45544fa5@jaimi.uscs.com> from "Jaimi" at Feb 6, 98 11:24:34 am Reply-To: ml@qoole.com Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 00:26:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: Prefab contest - call for input Hi Jaimi, > I'll be one of the judges, and I'll try to pick two more judges that don't > know each other. I will be impartial (I'm not allowing anyone I know to > enter), but I will have to rely on the other judges integrity. As to how to > stop people from cheating... well, many of the other prefabs, and things > from Quake etc are already well known, so if anyone copies, I hope > we can catch that. Okay then, sounds fair enough. Will three judges be enough though? > Well, the purpose of the prefab contest is to get a large number of prefabs > that people can use in their levels without worrying about copyright > permissions, Oh sure, I wouldn't mind ppl using my prefabs in their levels. I would mind if they then went on to make a profit from their level. I would have no problem if they in turn made their level available free (which means keeping the level off of compilations and commercial packages too). > etc. It would seem kind of crude for someone to make a CD and sell it with > just the prefabs... That's not my goal - perhaps we should amend #3 to > read: > > 3) Prefabs must be able to be used freely in level designs, both commercial > and private, and a statement of such must accompany the prefab. Sounds okay, but it might be better if ppl could say "you can use it so long as you or no-one else makes money out of it". I don't think that ppl should have to say outright "yeah, you can use my work and make money off it if you want". Thats just wreaks of being unfair on the prefab designer. The only issue I have is with other ppl making money off work that is not their own. I have no problem with other ppl using the work, 'cos that's what it is about after all. > Then if the author wants or doesn't want to be included in any compilations, > they can specify it themselves. No, map author should not have rights over prefab author without consulting the prefab author first. I've recently released some work (a quake 1 dm level) that I would love for everyone to have, but I don't want anyone (ANYONE, mind!) making money off of it. > What do you think? I'm also a little concerned about the quantity category as well. In your reply to the other mail that said quanitity might not be a good idea, you had a fair point of making sure ppl have a chance. But. Big question here? What is the competition about? Producing fancy prefabs that look awesome but slay the quake engine as far as rendering in a deathmatch goes (perhaps more relevant to quake 1 than the others) or to produce good quality and really useful prefabs. I would personally love it if the competition was aimed at usefulness more than anything else. Quantity would be good when combined with usefulness but I would be sceptical of a single awesome looking prefab if I couldn't find a decent regular use for it in my levels. Similar to what someone else said. Opiate was it? all the best with the competition, its a great idea. Charlie. (MoonGlum) ---------------------------------------- Charles Boardman :: chb96r@ecs.soton.ac.uk http://www.dsse.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~chb96r/moonglum.html -------------------Here endeth the email.-------------------