From: "Kenancy Valenwell" To: Reply-To: ml@qoole.com Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 01:00:54 -0800 Subject: Very strange, no? [Q1] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BD44AD.91C0BB00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, I've wrote once to the list about this problem and tried the = suggestions, but no luck. I'm hoping that by reiterating the story with = a little more detail, as well as the results of the suggestions I tried, = that maybe someone will be able to help me once again. I was working on my level and decided to add the lighting with a wall = torch and associated brush model. The first brush model is triangular = and worked out fine when I saved it, and then QBSP'd, LIGHTed, and ran = it in Quake. I wasn't really satified with the shadows it let off in my = level, so I moved the brushes over a little to the left of the wall they = were "mounted" onto. I resaved the level, and dumb me, I used the = -onlyents command on the QBSP, so when I viewed it in Quake, the torch = entities moved, but my brush models did not. So I went back into QOOLE, = reQBSP'd the thing without the -onlyents line, went back into Quake, but = nothing changed. It was as if QBSP didn't even pay attention to the = fact that I re-QBSP'd without the -onlyents line. Soooooo (i know it's long), I went back into QOOLE, deleted the brushes = and entities altogether, and re-did the lighting for the room from = scratch (only three lights in this room, no biggie). I made a new brush = model, positioned them and the torch entities where I wanted, re-saved = the level under a new name, re-QBSP'd, LIGHT'd and viewed it in Quake. = BUT THE DAMN THING LOOKED EXACTLY THE SAME AS IT DID IN MY PREVIOUS = LEVEL! LIKE I HADN"T DONE ANYTHING AT ALL! I did as some suggested and = checked to make sure I didn't have the source directory for QBSP screwed = up. That was O.K.! It still has the same directory I've used for three = months now. Another suggested that I delete all the associated files, = except the .QLE, and then re-compile and that it should work. Now, = maybe it would, but when I compile and start up Quake (to view it), I = get the 'ol "Couldn't spawn server / mylevel.map..." I guess either the = .MAP file or the .pts file that I erased was neccesary to run the thing, = but now I'm not sure how to recreate them. I tried re-compiling the = level. I assumed this would work because in the directory = Quake\Id1\Maps, there are a bunch of .BSP and .pts files of the levels = I've been working on. I assume they've been created by Exporting QBSP, = cuz I haven't made any. But re-compiling doesn't get my redone level = viewable, can't even start up Quake. Oh, by the way, there are NO LEAKS = reported nor any detected by the -pointfile command. No LIGHT errors = reported either. If you can help or have had the problem yourself, lemme know, cause I = HATE THIS! HEEEELLLLLP! Ken B. kbagwell@slip.net =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BD44AD.91C0BB00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear all,
I've wrote once to the list about = this problem=20 and tried the suggestions, but no luck.  I'm hoping that by = reiterating the=20 story with a little more detail, as well as the results of the = suggestions I=20 tried, that maybe someone will be able to help me once = again.
I was working on my level and = decided to add the=20 lighting with a wall torch and associated brush model.  The first = brush=20 model is triangular and worked out fine when I saved it, and then = QBSP'd,=20 LIGHTed, and ran it in Quake.  I wasn't really satified with the = shadows it=20 let off in my level, so I moved the brushes over a little to the left of = the=20 wall they were "mounted" onto.  I resaved the level, and = dumb me,=20 I used the -onlyents command on the QBSP, so when I viewed it in Quake, = the=20 torch entities moved, but my brush models did not.  So I went back = into=20 QOOLE, reQBSP'd the thing without the -onlyents line, went back into = Quake, but=20 nothing changed.  It was as if QBSP didn't even pay attention to = the fact=20 that I re-QBSP'd without the -onlyents line.
Soooooo (i = know it's long),=20 I went back into QOOLE, deleted the brushes and entities altogether, and = re-did=20 the lighting for the room from scratch (only three lights in this room, = no=20 biggie).  I made a new brush model, positioned them and the torch = entities=20 where I wanted, re-saved the level under a new name, re-QBSP'd, LIGHT'd = and=20 viewed it in Quake.  BUT THE DAMN THING LOOKED EXACTLY THE SAME AS = IT DID=20 IN MY PREVIOUS LEVEL!  LIKE I HADN"T DONE ANYTHING AT = ALL!  I did=20 as some suggested and checked to make sure I didn't have the source = directory=20 for QBSP screwed up.  That was O.K.!  It still has the same = directory=20 I've used for three months now.  Another suggested that I delete = all the=20 associated files, except the .QLE, and then re-compile and that it = should=20 work.  Now, maybe it would, but when I compile and start up Quake = (to view=20 it), I get the 'ol "Couldn't spawn server / = mylevel.map..."  I=20 guess either the .MAP file or the .pts file that I erased was neccesary = to run=20 the thing, but now I'm not sure how to recreate them.  I tried = re-compiling=20 the level.  I assumed this would work because in the directory=20 Quake\Id1\Maps, there are a bunch of .BSP and .pts files of the levels = I've been=20 working on.  I assume they've been created by Exporting QBSP, cuz I = haven't=20 made any.  But re-compiling doesn't get my redone level viewable, = can't=20 even start up Quake.  Oh, by the way, there are NO LEAKS reported = nor any=20 detected by the -pointfile command.  No LIGHT errors reported=20 either.
If you can help or have had the problem yourself, = lemme know,=20 cause I HATE THIS!  HEEEELLLLLP!
Ken B.
kbagwell@slip.net
 
 
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