From: Z9BWRIGH@am.pnu.com To: , "John Piraino" Reply-To: ml@qoole.com Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:26:12 -0500 Subject: Re: Amazing --IMA.Boundary.287078888 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part John, Yeah, WinQoole does seem to do that occassionally, and yeah, it sucks...However, it is still the best purchase on the market today as far as level editors go, and worth its $30...Even if you have to occassionally fix a few problems...Also, try the new test version of WinQoole...It seems that saving your .map file is not the problem, but actually loading the map file... All in all, though, I wouldn't post Qoole-bash messages here on the QOOLE MAILING LIST, and not expect a few zealous people to defend their favorite editor! And you're a manager for software programmers? Do they produce software and then go buy the competition? NO! Of course they probably defend their own software or favorite software, despite its minor issues...And, if you truely do what you do, then you KNOW all software has those types of issues. At least we can say that the programmers are working on fixing these issues. -Jalis (Director of MIS responsible for 0 programmers!) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Amazing Author: "John Piraino" at INTERNET Date: 3/2/98 10:57 AM I find it amazing and amusing how much inferiority people will put up with. John M. Sanderbeck writes: Why don't you post this message to the Qoole Programmers, not to the Mailing List. I'm tired of reading your whining messages. If you don't like Qoole, then QUIT USING IT.... I have minor problems with the software, but you don't hear me on here WHINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For Christ's Sake, get a life.... And, I am a programmer and have been for 10 years, so don't give me the bug free software line of bull... There is no such thing...... Mr. Sanderbeck, I would have a life and I wouldn't be wining if I purchased a product that does what it is supposed to do. WinQoole/GLQoole does NOT do what it is supposed to do. It does not save QLE files correctly or build MAP files correctly in order for the tools from id to do their job properly. Secondly, if this is the kind of software that you are happy with, please keep spending. If you are a programmer for more than 10 years, you should be grateful to God that you don't work for me. (Director of MIS responsible for 72 programmers). If this is your attitude, and your thoughts on producing software, you would be unemployed. I'll gladly keep your name on file in case I ever see your resume cross my desk. Goldeneye007 writes: Ok,first of all idiot,your so stupid you don't even know it!No matter what kind of software you use it will always have SOME kind of bugs that are infixable because the programming would cause more complications then it would help.Second the Qoole programmers did no even make the qrad,qvis,and qbsp ID software did som dont be blaming it on them!Why don't you just return the damn thing if you don't like it! If Qoole has a software bug that makes it infixable, then the entire project should be scrapped, as the software doesn't work from the start. I see, you are like Mr. Sanderbeck who doesn't mind spending money for things that don't work. You must be really ignorant if you thought that I felt QBSP, LIGHT and VIS came from Lithium. I wasn't born yesterday. Secondly, the bug is NOT in WQBSP, QBSP256 or QBSP (I try them all) the problem is in the creation of the MAP file (If you were to read the message properly before flaming) As I explained, I had deleted a room that I had created over 5 days ago. I haven't even been working on that part of the map, and all of a sudden there's a leak. I don't think that's id's tools, that's the creation of the MAP file, which WinQoole does. (Watch the screen the next time you Export to BSP, you'll see a message box stating "Exporting map file...") As stated in the letter that I have found the problem, it is in the saving or re-loading of QLE files. If I can have a part of a map untouched for 5 days, and then have it come up with a leak and a cut node portal error, that's not QBSP! If it was, it would have found that 5 days ago. I found this by deleting one room at a time, and then covering up the hole with a solid cube. Once I found the offending room, I replaced it with another room the same size, texture, etc. Then it worked fine again. It appears that everyone is defending their "faulty" purchase, as no one likes to buy a "lemon". If you want to spend your money fiverously, I have a bridge that I've been wanting to sell for a few months now. John --IMA.Boundary.287078888 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from gateway.pnu.com (146.240.56.70) by pw13mg.am.pnu.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 00180937; Mon, 2 Mar 98 12:40:43 -0500 Received: from qoole.com by gateway.pnu.com with SMTP id AA11475 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:39:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by qoole.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA28648 for ml-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:04:40 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: qoole.com: majordom set sender to owner-qoole@qoole.com using -f Received: from mail.eyecom.com ([12.2.10.3]) by qoole.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28644 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:04:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from PIRAINO by mail.eyecom.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id FY503AFM; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:57:54 -0600 Message-Id: <003101bd45fc$40916ef0$0b64a8c0@piraino.eyecom.com> From: "John Piraino" To: Subject: Amazing Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:57:05 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-qoole@qoole.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ml@qoole.com --IMA.Boundary.287078888--