From: "Kenancy Valenwell" To: Reply-To: ml@qoole.com Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:39:26 -0800 Subject: Re: Amazing First of all, buddy, you're full of shit. You aren't any fucking director of diddlysquat. No person resonsible for 72 programmers is going to have time to play with QOOLE. Sure, it's buggy sometimes, but then Matt and Paul are fairly new to the Quake editing scene, and for that, they have built one hell of an editor. All I can say is the the biggest, most powerful and rich company in the world, with all it's programmers (Microsoft), can't build non-bugged programs. But I bet you use their operating systems. I bet you've used other programs of theirs. I do, and I don't like the bugs, but they have their advantages. What I find amazing is that a person of your stature (supposedly) and professionalism (we guess) would write to our list with such a response. Anyone with a quarter of a brain knows that when their is a need for RMA's on a product or money is involved, you don't write to the goddamn mailing list. Anyways, stop bullcrapping our QOOLE list and get the fuck out of here, scumbag, uhh..I mean, John. Ken B. -----Original Message----- From: John Piraino To: ml@qoole.com Date: Monday, March 02, 1998 9:14 AM Subject: Amazing >I find it amazing and amusing how much inferiority people will put up with. > >John M. Sanderbeck writes: >Why don't you post this message to the Qoole Programmers, not to the Mailing >List. I'm tired of reading your whining messages. If you don't like Qoole, >then QUIT USING IT.... I have minor problems with the software, but you >don't hear me on here WHINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For >Christ's Sake, get a life.... And, I am a programmer and have been for 10 >years, so don't give me the bug free software line of bull... There is no >such thing...... > >Mr. Sanderbeck, I would have a life and I wouldn't be wining if I purchased >a product that does what it is supposed to do. WinQoole/GLQoole does NOT do >what it is supposed to do. It does not save QLE files correctly or build >MAP files correctly in order for the tools from id to do their job properly. > >Secondly, if this is the kind of software that you are happy with, please >keep spending. If you are a programmer for more than 10 years, you should >be grateful to God that you don't work for me. (Director of MIS responsible >for 72 programmers). If this is your attitude, and your thoughts on >producing software, you would be unemployed. I'll gladly keep your name on >file in case I ever see your resume cross my desk. > >Goldeneye007 writes: >Ok,first of all idiot,your so stupid you don't even know it!No matter what >kind of software you use it will always have SOME kind of bugs that are >infixable because the programming would cause more complications then it >would help.Second the Qoole programmers did no even make the qrad,qvis,and >qbsp ID software did som dont be blaming it on them!Why don't you just >return the damn thing if you don't like it! > >If Qoole has a software bug that makes it infixable, then the entire project >should be scrapped, as the software doesn't work from the start. I see, you >are like Mr. Sanderbeck who doesn't mind spending money for things that >don't work. You must be really ignorant if you thought that I felt QBSP, >LIGHT and VIS came from Lithium. I wasn't born yesterday. > >Secondly, the bug is NOT in WQBSP, QBSP256 or QBSP (I try them all) the >problem is in the creation of the MAP file (If you were to read the message >properly before flaming) > >As I explained, I had deleted a room that I had created over 5 days ago. I >haven't even been working on that part of the map, and all of a sudden >there's a leak. I don't think that's id's tools, that's the creation of the >MAP file, which WinQoole does. (Watch the screen the next time you Export >to BSP, you'll see a message box stating "Exporting map file...") > >As stated in the letter that I have found the problem, it is in the saving >or re-loading of QLE files. If I can have a part of a map untouched for 5 >days, and then have it come up with a leak and a cut node portal error, >that's not QBSP! If it was, it would have found that 5 days ago. I found >this by deleting one room at a time, and then covering up the hole with a >solid cube. Once I found the offending room, I replaced it with another >room the same size, texture, etc. Then it worked fine again. > >It appears that everyone is defending their "faulty" purchase, as no one >likes to buy a "lemon". If you want to spend your money fiverously, I have >a bridge that I've been wanting to sell for a few months now. > >John > > >