From: "Thomas, R. (Russel) COGHB" <RThomas@coghb.co.za>
To: "'ml@qoole.com'" <ml@qoole.com>
Reply-To: ml@qoole.com
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:14:14 +0200
Subject: RE: Amazing

hey, by the way guys, (and managers)

anyone ever heard of Windows?  you-know, that HUGELY popular software
product that ppl have spent MILLIONS on and is (of course) TOTALLY bug
free?

Keep up the good work Lithium ;)

btw, my addy is rthomas@coghb.co.za if you wish to return further
comments regarding this ridiculous waste of inbox space thread.

peace

_yoda
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	John Piraino [SMTP:jpiraino@piraino.com]
> Sent:	Monday, March 02, 1998 6:57 PM
> To:	ml@qoole.com
> Subject:	Amazing
> 
> I find it amazing and amusing how much inferiority people will put up
> with.
> 
> John M. Sanderbeck writes:
> Why don't you post this message to the Qoole Programmers, not to the
> Mailing
> List. I'm tired of reading your whining messages.  If you don't like
> Qoole,
> then QUIT USING IT....   I have minor problems with the software, but
> you
> don't hear me on here WHINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> For
> Christ's Sake, get a life....   And, I am a programmer and have been
> for 10
> years, so don't give me the bug free software line of bull...  There
> is no
> such thing......
> 
> Mr. Sanderbeck, I would have a life and I wouldn't be wining if I
> purchased
> a product that does what it is supposed to do.  WinQoole/GLQoole does
> NOT do
> what it is supposed to do.  It does not save QLE files correctly or
> build
> MAP files correctly in order for the tools from id to do their job
> properly.
> 
> Secondly, if this is the kind of software that you are happy with,
> please
> keep spending.  If you are a programmer for more than 10 years, you
> should
> be grateful to God that you don't work for me.  (Director of MIS
> responsible
> for 72 programmers).  If this is your attitude, and your thoughts on
> producing software, you would be unemployed.  I'll gladly keep your
> name on
> file in case I ever see your resume cross my desk.
> 
> Goldeneye007  writes:
> Ok,first of all idiot,your so stupid you don't even know it!No matter
> what
> kind of software you use it will always have SOME kind of bugs that
> are
> infixable because the programming would cause more complications then
> it
> would help.Second the Qoole programmers did no even make the
> qrad,qvis,and
> qbsp ID software did som dont be blaming it on them!Why don't you just
> return the damn thing if you don't like it!
> 
> If Qoole has a software bug that makes it infixable, then the entire
> project
> should be scrapped, as the software doesn't work from the start.  I
> see, you
> are like Mr. Sanderbeck who doesn't mind spending money for things
> that
> don't work.  You must be really ignorant if you thought that I felt
> QBSP,
> LIGHT and VIS came from Lithium.  I wasn't born yesterday.
> 
> Secondly, the bug is NOT in WQBSP, QBSP256 or QBSP (I try them all)
> the
> problem is in the creation of the MAP file (If you were to read the
> message
> properly before flaming)
> 
> As I explained, I had deleted a room that I had created over 5 days
> ago.  I
> haven't even been working on that part of the map, and all of a sudden
> there's a leak.  I don't think that's id's tools, that's the creation
> of the
> MAP file, which WinQoole does.  (Watch the screen the next time you
> Export
> to BSP, you'll see a message box stating "Exporting map file...")
> 
> As stated in the letter that I have found the problem, it is in the
> saving
> or re-loading of QLE files.  If I can have a part of a map untouched
> for 5
> days, and then have it come up with a leak and a cut node portal
> error,
> that's not QBSP!  If it was, it would have found that 5 days ago.  I
> found
> this by deleting one room at a time, and then covering up the hole
> with a
> solid cube.  Once I found the offending room, I replaced it with
> another
> room the same size, texture, etc.  Then it worked fine again.
> 
> It appears that everyone is defending their "faulty" purchase, as no
> one
> likes to buy a "lemon".  If you want to spend your money fiverously, I
> have
> a bridge that I've been wanting to sell for a few months now.
> 
> John
>